If there’s one thing Cher has mastered over her seven-decade reign as pop culture royalty, it’s this: telling the truth with a wink and walking away before anyone can argue.
That energy was on full display during her recent appearance on Armchair Expert, where she sat down with Dax Shepard — joined by his wife, Kristen Bell — and delivered a line that instantly earned its place in the Cher Hall of Fame. When asked who might be a “better match” for Bell than Shepard, Cher didn’t hesitate.
“You’re lucky,” she told him. “She’s definitely the better half.”
Cue nervous laughter, blushing, and one very self-aware Dax Shepard nodding in agreement like a man who knows when he’s outmatched.
To his credit, Shepard handled the moment exactly right — with humor, humility, and the kind of emotional intelligence that explains why Bell has repeatedly sung his praises over the years. The actor openly acknowledged his past struggles, including substance abuse, and spoke candidly about how grateful he is for Bell’s support and partnership. Cher, ever the straight shooter, acknowledged that Shepard must be doing something right — especially when it comes to fatherhood.
“You seem like a good dad,” she added, which, coming from Cher, feels like a rare badge of approval you frame and hang on the wall.
Kristen Bell, meanwhile, wasn’t about to let her husband get roasted without jumping in to defend him. She assured Cher — and the audience — that Shepard is a “slow burn,” but one worth sticking around for. And honestly? That exchange alone felt healthier than most celebrity relationship interviews combined.
One thing the trio unanimously agreed on: a partner who isn’t threatened by success is infinitely more attractive. Shepard proudly stated that the brighter Bell shines, the more he loves it — a sentiment Cher immediately echoed, referencing her own relationship with Alexander “AE” Edwards.
“The more I shine, the more he has fun,” she said. And that might be the most Cher sentence ever spoken.
This podcast moment arrives as Cher continues yet another career victory lap. Her 2023 holiday album Christmas debuted at No. 1 on Billboard’s Top Holiday Albums chart, proving that even in her late 70s, she can still outrank artists half her age with a sequined shrug. Add that to her four Grammy Awards, an Oscar, an Emmy, a Kennedy Center Honor, a Presidential Medal of Freedom, and a catalog that includes No. 1 hits like “Believe,” “If I Could Turn Back Time,” “Half-Breed,” and “Dark Lady,” and you start to realize Cher isn’t just commenting on pop culture — she is pop culture.
Kristen Bell brings her own trophy shelf to the table as well, with multiple Critics’ Choice Awards, a Saturn Award, and a Golden Globe nomination, not to mention iconic roles in Veronica Mars, Frozen, The Good Place, and Nobody Wants This. Shepard, for his part, has built a respected second act through Armchair Expert, earning praise for honest conversations that don’t feel like press junkets disguised as therapy sessions.
Cher also briefly touched on the less glamorous side of legacy — namely, her ongoing legal disputes tied to Sonny Bono’s estate. With trademark bluntness, she noted that while she stayed on good terms with Sonny after their split, the same couldn’t be said for his widow.
“She’s trying to take all my money,” Cher said, delivering the line with the kind of casual honesty only someone who’s already won can afford.
The takeaway? Cher remains exactly who she’s always been: funny, fearless, honest, and effortlessly cool. She can roast you, compliment you, and outshine you — sometimes all in the same sentence — and somehow leave everyone smiling afterward.
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